| 1. | Ingram de Say Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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| 2. | Isabel de Say Family/Spouse: William Fitzalan. William (son of William FitzAlan, Lord Oswestry and Helen Peverel) died in 1210 in England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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| 3. | John Fitzalan, Lord of Clum and Oswestry John married Isabella d' Albini about 1222 in England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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| 4. | John FitzAlan, Earl of Arundel Family/Spouse: Maud de Botiller. Maud (daughter of Theobald de Botiller and Rohese de Verdun) died on 27 Nov 1283. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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